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      Anonymous
      QUOTE (stellar @ Jul 27 2009, 05:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561234″][/url]
      [url=”http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm”]FDA takes away your rights to zicam because of 130 people[/url]

      zicam is one of the best , most effective treatments for colds that i’ve used….and i’ve used a LOT of shit. i’m talking about the nasal gel here, not the lozenges. the nose is the best place, because i’ve read this is where the cold virus replicates.

      i wonder how many people total have used zicam? millions and millions? because of one hundred and thirty people have lost their sense of smell, you lose your right to purchase it.

      well, fuck the FDA….i’m hoping someone here can provide me some insight on how i can make this shit for myself?

      i see on this site: [url=”http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=530″]http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=530[/url]

      looks like the concentration might be 33mM, but im not sure how to take that info and make my own solution….any help, por favor???

      The easiest way is to start with a liquid zinc supplement.
      Zicam is a 2X of zinc gluconate if I’m reading my Zicam bottle correctly (the print is small). The X potency is 10%. You would dilute it twice to get 2X but you might want to go higher (more diluted) to avoid any problems. Higher is actually better I think. More diluted is considered stronger in homeopathy.

      You want to add something like glycerian or some other base instead of just water so it doesn’t just drain out of your nasal passages. Zinc kills bacteria so you don’t need any perservatives I would think.

      You can buy the mother tincture which is the substance before it is diluted (in liquid form). This might be special ordered from your local health food store if they do special orders. Or you can find it online. But I think a liquid supplement is easier to get.

      I have some Zicam which I plan on holding on to. I never had a problem with it and wonder if overdosing it too frequently might be a factor in why some people had a problem.

      #803848

      Anonymous
      QUOTE (stellar @ Jul 27 2009, 05:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561234″][/url]
      [url=”http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm”]FDA takes away your rights to zicam because of 130 people[/url]

      zicam is one of the best , most effective treatments for colds that i’ve used….and i’ve used a LOT of shit. i’m talking about the nasal gel here, not the lozenges. the nose is the best place, because i’ve read this is where the cold virus replicates.

      i wonder how many people total have used zicam? millions and millions? because of one hundred and thirty people have lost their sense of smell, you lose your right to purchase it.

      well, fuck the FDA….i’m hoping someone here can provide me some insight on how i can make this shit for myself?

      i see on this site: [url=”http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=530″]http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=530[/url]

      looks like the concentration might be 33mM, but im not sure how to take that info and make my own solution….any help, por favor???

      The easiest way is to start with a liquid zinc supplement.
      Zicam is a 2X of zinc gluconate if I’m reading my Zicam bottle correctly (the print is small). The X potency is 10%. You would dilute it twice to get 2X but you might want to go higher (more diluted) to avoid any problems. Higher is actually better I think. More diluted is considered stronger in homeopathy.

      You want to add something like glycerian or some other base instead of just water so it doesn’t just drain out of your nasal passages. Zinc kills bacteria so you don’t need any perservatives I would think.

      You can buy the mother tincture which is the substance before it is diluted (in liquid form). This might be special ordered from your local health food store if they do special orders. Or you can find it online. But I think a liquid supplement is easier to get.

      I have some Zicam which I plan on holding on to. I never had a problem with it and wonder if overdosing it too frequently might be a factor in why some people had a problem.

      #803849

      Anonymous
      QUOTE (stellar @ Jul 27 2009, 05:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561234″][/url]
      [url=”http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm”]FDA takes away your rights to zicam because of 130 people[/url]

      zicam is one of the best , most effective treatments for colds that i’ve used….and i’ve used a LOT of shit. i’m talking about the nasal gel here, not the lozenges. the nose is the best place, because i’ve read this is where the cold virus replicates.

      i wonder how many people total have used zicam? millions and millions? because of one hundred and thirty people have lost their sense of smell, you lose your right to purchase it.

      well, fuck the FDA….i’m hoping someone here can provide me some insight on how i can make this shit for myself?

      i see on this site: [url=”http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=530″]http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=530[/url]

      looks like the concentration might be 33mM, but im not sure how to take that info and make my own solution….any help, por favor???

      The easiest way is to start with a liquid zinc supplement.
      Zicam is a 2X of zinc gluconate if I’m reading my Zicam bottle correctly (the print is small). The X potency is 10%. You would dilute it twice to get 2X but you might want to go higher (more diluted) to avoid any problems. Higher is actually better I think. More diluted is considered stronger in homeopathy.

      You want to add something like glycerian or some other base instead of just water so it doesn’t just drain out of your nasal passages. Zinc kills bacteria so you don’t need any perservatives I would think.

      You can buy the mother tincture which is the substance before it is diluted (in liquid form). This might be special ordered from your local health food store if they do special orders. Or you can find it online. But I think a liquid supplement is easier to get.

      I have some Zicam which I plan on holding on to. I never had a problem with it and wonder if overdosing it too frequently might be a factor in why some people had a problem.

      #803850

      Anonymous
      QUOTE (stellar @ Jul 27 2009, 05:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561234″][/url]
      [url=”http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm”]FDA takes away your rights to zicam because of 130 people[/url]

      zicam is one of the best , most effective treatments for colds that i’ve used….and i’ve used a LOT of shit. i’m talking about the nasal gel here, not the lozenges. the nose is the best place, because i’ve read this is where the cold virus replicates.

      i wonder how many people total have used zicam? millions and millions? because of one hundred and thirty people have lost their sense of smell, you lose your right to purchase it.

      well, fuck the FDA….i’m hoping someone here can provide me some insight on how i can make this shit for myself?

      i see on this site: [url=”http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=530″]http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=530[/url]

      looks like the concentration might be 33mM, but im not sure how to take that info and make my own solution….any help, por favor???

      The easiest way is to start with a liquid zinc supplement.
      Zicam is a 2X of zinc gluconate if I’m reading my Zicam bottle correctly (the print is small). The X potency is 10%. You would dilute it twice to get 2X but you might want to go higher (more diluted) to avoid any problems. Higher is actually better I think. More diluted is considered stronger in homeopathy.

      You want to add something like glycerian or some other base instead of just water so it doesn’t just drain out of your nasal passages. Zinc kills bacteria so you don’t need any perservatives I would think.

      You can buy the mother tincture which is the substance before it is diluted (in liquid form). This might be special ordered from your local health food store if they do special orders. Or you can find it online. But I think a liquid supplement is easier to get.

      I have some Zicam which I plan on holding on to. I never had a problem with it and wonder if overdosing it too frequently might be a factor in why some people had a problem.

      #803851

      Anonymous
      QUOTE (stellar @ Jul 27 2009, 05:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561234″][/url]
      [url=”http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm”]FDA takes away your rights to zicam because of 130 people[/url]

      zicam is one of the best , most effective treatments for colds that i’ve used….and i’ve used a LOT of shit. i’m talking about the nasal gel here, not the lozenges. the nose is the best place, because i’ve read this is where the cold virus replicates.

      i wonder how many people total have used zicam? millions and millions? because of one hundred and thirty people have lost their sense of smell, you lose your right to purchase it.

      well, fuck the FDA….i’m hoping someone here can provide me some insight on how i can make this shit for myself?

      i see on this site: [url=”http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=530″]http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=530[/url]

      looks like the concentration might be 33mM, but im not sure how to take that info and make my own solution….any help, por favor???

      The easiest way is to start with a liquid zinc supplement.
      Zicam is a 2X of zinc gluconate if I’m reading my Zicam bottle correctly (the print is small). The X potency is 10%. You would dilute it twice to get 2X but you might want to go higher (more diluted) to avoid any problems. Higher is actually better I think. More diluted is considered stronger in homeopathy.

      You want to add something like glycerian or some other base instead of just water so it doesn’t just drain out of your nasal passages. Zinc kills bacteria so you don’t need any perservatives I would think.

      You can buy the mother tincture which is the substance before it is diluted (in liquid form). This might be special ordered from your local health food store if they do special orders. Or you can find it online. But I think a liquid supplement is easier to get.

      I have some Zicam which I plan on holding on to. I never had a problem with it and wonder if overdosing it too frequently might be a factor in why some people had a problem.

      #803852

      Anonymous
      QUOTE (stellar @ Jul 27 2009, 05:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561234″][/url]
      [url=”http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm”]FDA takes away your rights to zicam because of 130 people[/url]

      zicam is one of the best , most effective treatments for colds that i’ve used….and i’ve used a LOT of shit. i’m talking about the nasal gel here, not the lozenges. the nose is the best place, because i’ve read this is where the cold virus replicates.

      i wonder how many people total have used zicam? millions and millions? because of one hundred and thirty people have lost their sense of smell, you lose your right to purchase it.

      well, fuck the FDA….i’m hoping someone here can provide me some insight on how i can make this shit for myself?

      i see on this site: [url=”http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=530″]http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=530[/url]

      looks like the concentration might be 33mM, but im not sure how to take that info and make my own solution….any help, por favor???

      The easiest way is to start with a liquid zinc supplement.
      Zicam is a 2X of zinc gluconate if I’m reading my Zicam bottle correctly (the print is small). The X potency is 10%. You would dilute it twice to get 2X but you might want to go higher (more diluted) to avoid any problems. Higher is actually better I think. More diluted is considered stronger in homeopathy.

      You want to add something like glycerian or some other base instead of just water so it doesn’t just drain out of your nasal passages. Zinc kills bacteria so you don’t need any perservatives I would think.

      You can buy the mother tincture which is the substance before it is diluted (in liquid form). This might be special ordered from your local health food store if they do special orders. Or you can find it online. But I think a liquid supplement is easier to get.

      I have some Zicam which I plan on holding on to. I never had a problem with it and wonder if overdosing it too frequently might be a factor in why some people had a problem.

      #803853

      Anonymous
      QUOTE (stellar @ Jul 27 2009, 05:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561234″][/url]
      [url=”http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm”]FDA takes away your rights to zicam because of 130 people[/url]

      zicam is one of the best , most effective treatments for colds that i’ve used….and i’ve used a LOT of shit. i’m talking about the nasal gel here, not the lozenges. the nose is the best place, because i’ve read this is where the cold virus replicates.

      i wonder how many people total have used zicam? millions and millions? because of one hundred and thirty people have lost their sense of smell, you lose your right to purchase it.

      well, fuck the FDA….i’m hoping someone here can provide me some insight on how i can make this shit for myself?

      i see on this site: [url=”http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=530″]http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=530[/url]

      looks like the concentration might be 33mM, but im not sure how to take that info and make my own solution….any help, por favor???

      The easiest way is to start with a liquid zinc supplement.
      Zicam is a 2X of zinc gluconate if I’m reading my Zicam bottle correctly (the print is small). The X potency is 10%. You would dilute it twice to get 2X but you might want to go higher (more diluted) to avoid any problems. Higher is actually better I think. More diluted is considered stronger in homeopathy.

      You want to add something like glycerian or some other base instead of just water so it doesn’t just drain out of your nasal passages. Zinc kills bacteria so you don’t need any perservatives I would think.

      You can buy the mother tincture which is the substance before it is diluted (in liquid form). This might be special ordered from your local health food store if they do special orders. Or you can find it online. But I think a liquid supplement is easier to get.

      I have some Zicam which I plan on holding on to. I never had a problem with it and wonder if overdosing it too frequently might be a factor in why some people had a problem.

      #803854

      Anonymous
      QUOTE (stellar @ Jul 27 2009, 05:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561234″][/url]
      [url=”http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm”]FDA takes away your rights to zicam because of 130 people[/url]

      zicam is one of the best , most effective treatments for colds that i’ve used….and i’ve used a LOT of shit. i’m talking about the nasal gel here, not the lozenges. the nose is the best place, because i’ve read this is where the cold virus replicates.

      i wonder how many people total have used zicam? millions and millions? because of one hundred and thirty people have lost their sense of smell, you lose your right to purchase it.

      well, fuck the FDA….i’m hoping someone here can provide me some insight on how i can make this shit for myself?

      i see on this site: [url=”http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=530″]http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=530[/url]

      looks like the concentration might be 33mM, but im not sure how to take that info and make my own solution….any help, por favor???

      The easiest way is to start with a liquid zinc supplement.
      Zicam is a 2X of zinc gluconate if I’m reading my Zicam bottle correctly (the print is small). The X potency is 10%. You would dilute it twice to get 2X but you might want to go higher (more diluted) to avoid any problems. Higher is actually better I think. More diluted is considered stronger in homeopathy.

      You want to add something like glycerian or some other base instead of just water so it doesn’t just drain out of your nasal passages. Zinc kills bacteria so you don’t need any perservatives I would think.

      You can buy the mother tincture which is the substance before it is diluted (in liquid form). This might be special ordered from your local health food store if they do special orders. Or you can find it online. But I think a liquid supplement is easier to get.

      I have some Zicam which I plan on holding on to. I never had a problem with it and wonder if overdosing it too frequently might be a factor in why some people had a problem.

      #803975

      Anonymous
      QUOTE (stellar @ Jul 27 2009, 05:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561234″][/url]
      [url=”http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm”]FDA takes away your rights to zicam because of 130 people[/url]

      Other than a few situations, I can’t see anything negative about losing your sense of smell. It seems like such it would be a huge bonus, outside of a few situations.

      #803976

      Anonymous
      QUOTE (stellar @ Jul 27 2009, 05:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561234″][/url]
      [url=”http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm”]FDA takes away your rights to zicam because of 130 people[/url]

      Other than a few situations, I can’t see anything negative about losing your sense of smell. It seems like such it would be a huge bonus, outside of a few situations.

      #803977

      Anonymous
      QUOTE (stellar @ Jul 27 2009, 05:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561234″][/url]
      [url=”http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm”]FDA takes away your rights to zicam because of 130 people[/url]

      Other than a few situations, I can’t see anything negative about losing your sense of smell. It seems like such it would be a huge bonus, outside of a few situations.

      #803978

      Anonymous
      QUOTE (stellar @ Jul 27 2009, 05:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561234″][/url]
      [url=”http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm”]FDA takes away your rights to zicam because of 130 people[/url]

      Other than a few situations, I can’t see anything negative about losing your sense of smell. It seems like such it would be a huge bonus, outside of a few situations.

      #803979

      Anonymous
      QUOTE (stellar @ Jul 27 2009, 05:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561234″][/url]
      [url=”http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm”]FDA takes away your rights to zicam because of 130 people[/url]

      Other than a few situations, I can’t see anything negative about losing your sense of smell. It seems like such it would be a huge bonus, outside of a few situations.

      #803980

      Anonymous
      QUOTE (stellar @ Jul 27 2009, 05:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561234″][/url]
      [url=”http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm”]FDA takes away your rights to zicam because of 130 people[/url]

      Other than a few situations, I can’t see anything negative about losing your sense of smell. It seems like such it would be a huge bonus, outside of a few situations.

      #803981

      Anonymous
      QUOTE (stellar @ Jul 27 2009, 05:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561234″][/url]
      [url=”http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm”]FDA takes away your rights to zicam because of 130 people[/url]

      Other than a few situations, I can’t see anything negative about losing your sense of smell. It seems like such it would be a huge bonus, outside of a few situations.

      #803982

      Anonymous
      QUOTE (stellar @ Jul 27 2009, 05:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561234″][/url]
      [url=”http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm”]FDA takes away your rights to zicam because of 130 people[/url]

      Other than a few situations, I can’t see anything negative about losing your sense of smell. It seems like such it would be a huge bonus, outside of a few situations.

      #804411

      methodice
      Member
      QUOTE (staying_alive @ Jul 27 2009, 04:20 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561262″][/url]
      Other than a few situations, I can’t see anything negative about losing your sense of smell. It seems like such it would be a huge bonus, outside of a few situations.

      What situations?

      And to the OP, just mix a bit of water and zinc gluc powder and rail it. No big deal.

      #804417

      Proton Soup
      Member
      QUOTE (orthomolecular @ Jul 27 2009, 03:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561245″][/url]
      The easiest way is to start with a liquid zinc supplement.
      Zicam is a 2X of zinc gluconate if I’m reading my Zicam bottle correctly (the print is small). The X potency is 10%. You would dilute it twice to get 2X but you might want to go higher (more diluted) to avoid any problems. Higher is actually better I think. More diluted is considered stronger in homeopathy.

      which is also complete bullshit. i wonder, is the zinc even listed as an active ingredient? i’ve been noticing that a lot of “homeopathic” products appear to be working (to the extent that they do work) because of the “inactive” ingredients. whether it’s xylitol nose spray or camphored headache glue sticks, the manufacturers are pandering to the homeopath crowd with a few latin-obfuscated useless ingredients. but what the hell, it’s all about making money isn’t it?

      as for homemade zicam, why don’t you kick it up a notch and throw in some colloidal silver to get a little extra antimicrobial activity. just don’t overdo it and get argyria.

      #804418

      Proton Soup
      Member
      QUOTE (orthomolecular @ Jul 27 2009, 03:25 PM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561245″][/url]
      The easiest way is to start with a liquid zinc supplement.
      Zicam is a 2X of zinc gluconate if I’m reading my Zicam bottle correctly (the print is small). The X potency is 10%. You would dilute it twice to get 2X but you might want to go higher (more diluted) to avoid any problems. Higher is actually better I think. More diluted is considered stronger in homeopathy.

      which is also complete bullshit. i wonder, is the zinc even listed as an active ingredient? i’ve been noticing that a lot of “homeopathic” products appear to be working (to the extent that they do work) because of the “inactive” ingredients. whether it’s xylitol nose spray or camphored headache glue sticks, the manufacturers are pandering to the homeopath crowd with a few latin-obfuscated useless ingredients. but what the hell, it’s all about making money isn’t it?

      as for homemade zicam, why don’t you kick it up a notch and throw in some colloidal silver to get a little extra antimicrobial activity. just don’t overdo it and get argyria.

      #804475

      Anonymous
      QUOTE (Proton Soup @ Jul 28 2009, 03:34 AM) [url=”index.php?act=findpost&pid=561324″][/url]
      which is also complete bullshit. i wonder, is the zinc even listed as an active ingredient? i’ve been noticing that a lot of “homeopathic” products appear to be working (to the extent that they do work) because of the “inactive” ingredients. whether it’s xylitol nose spray or camphored headache glue sticks, the manufacturers are pandering to the homeopath crowd with a few latin-obfuscated useless ingredients. but what the hell, it’s all about making money isn’t it?

      as for homemade zicam, why don’t you kick it up a notch and throw in some colloidal silver to get a little extra antimicrobial activity. just don’t overdo it and get argyria.

      Zicam is not a homeopathic remedy: it is an OTC nasal spray that uses homeopathic dilutions. Homeopathy is about a lot more than just diluted substances.

      Zicam does not follow the homeopathic law of similiars (let like cure like). The homeopathic remedy zinc metallica is not used to treat colds.

      The only use I know of for camphor in homeopathy is to stop the action of a remedy given.

      I don’t see how products like Zicam have anything to do with determining the effectiveness of Classical Homeopathy. Homeopathy and Zicam are two entirely different things.

      I don’t see how anyone can make a global evaluation of the effectiveness of all OTC products using homeopathic dilutions since they are basically all different products with only one thing in common – low or diluted doses.

      Zicam contains diluted amounts of zinc; its listed on the label as the active ingredient. Zicam doesn’t not contain any xylitol.

      I don’t see zinc as a “latin-obfuscated useless ingredient” since it has known antiviral and antibacterial properties.

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